Giving up Guns

Time for me to give up guns. Time for gun law change. Time for mental health services change. Decision time.

This is a statement of personal intent and maybe food for thought.

I am giving up my guns.

I have had them for years. Grew up with them as a kid. I enjoy shooting, and think hunting is fine as long as you eat what you shoot.

After yesterday, I am removing myself from the list of gun owners. 

No matter what happens now, we all have to decide if we want to change our attitudes towards firearms. Mine changed yesterday. I am not saying give up yours, attempting to dictate right or wrong, or change the 2nd Amendment. But, I (me) do think we need to:

  1. Make it tougher to get guns. 
  2. Tougher to buy ammo. 
  3. Easier to get mental health services. 
  4. Not stigmatize those with a mental health issue, so that they or those responsible for helping them are not inclined to downplay what could be a serious issue.
  5. Fund our schools so that instead of having to make constant tradeoffs, they have enough money to abslutely secure a building and a perimeter.
  6. Deepen our respect for the people that work in schools. This includes not only teachers, but support staff. This means stop minimalizing their worth.

I have to show ID to buy Claritin D. My purchases are tracked. I can walk into a store and buy 500 rounds of 2.23 ammo with nothing but payment.

There is something fundamentally wrong here. 

All the rest of the details, pro/anti gun, pro/anti national health care, pro/anti background checks...All these these things are mute if you are unwilling to make a committed change yourself.

I am.

Are you?

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Dean Massalsky December 18, 2012 at 02:13 AM
What part truthfully debunks anything on Gun Facts???
Dean Massalsky December 18, 2012 at 02:14 AM
Your point is off base and ignores the topic of my post. Personal choice.
Dean Massalsky December 18, 2012 at 02:25 AM
If there is one thing I do not lack it is confidence, especially when it comes to weapons. But again, this is not the point of the post. The point of Nicoles post is similar to mine - reexamining why we even own them.
Laura Jones December 18, 2012 at 02:37 AM
G-Money: There is a lot that can be done in terms of physical building security that we don't do. All classrooms doors should be steel, which makes them unable to be shot open. All door should have a handle lock and a mechanical lock for lock down use only. Hallways can be secured with locking fire doors that restrict access in a lock down. A school wide panic alarm system creates faster internal responses to a lock down (internal compliance) and external police responses. All fire doors should have camera's and timers to prevent them being opened and left open. Entrances should require ID and visual for access. Nothing is fail safe, but we can make it harder. In terms of training, it has to be about situational assessment and awareness under stress. How to make the right decision and see the consequences. Too many civilians get tunnel vision in a crises and can end up shooting at someone who is surrounded by people without actually seeing them. Also, untrained civilians have to make snap assessments of when to fire - which is much more difficult than it sounds when you are hyped up on adrenaline, never been in the situation and have never killed someone before. Then actually being steady enough to aim well becomes really hard. It's just not easy for law enforcement, let alone a teacher.
Alan December 18, 2012 at 12:13 PM
A friend of mine lives in Australia. A couple of years ago, gun control on steroids went into effect there, and all personal weapons were taken from private citizens - well, at least the law-abiding private citizens. Criminals didn't turn in their weapons, for some odd reason. The effect? Crime of all kinds is rising, and rising quickly. No surprise there, and no doubt at all that it would be even worse in an America with its dramatically higher crime rates in the first place. Remember that it is not just a mental health issue, it is also one of crime and self-defense. These high-profile slaughters are truly horrific, but annually do not cause more than a tiny fraction of the deaths and other trauma caused by armed criminals. I'm not sure how people who are unarmed in their homes expect to deal with a violent intruder, but I do know that not even the best police force in the world can possibly be everywhere when it is needed. And leaving me and my family at the mercy of an armed intruder is NOT an option - but then, I am a 10-year Marine veteran with a couple of years of combat time, so my instincts and abilities are a bit different than some other people.
Rick Newsome December 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Dean, Tens of thousands of people are killed in this country by drunk drivers, I expect you will be turning in your vehicle(s) also
Gabe December 18, 2012 at 03:10 PM
So no prayers in school, so no pledge of allegiance in school, so parents afraid to discipline their kids for fear of our laws.....but we allow our legislatures to do this? Ohhhh 8 hours of extra training should do the trick? Start following your legislatures and how they VOTE! Republican and Democrat Search the web and see how they voted http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(bbdiqk45ojaqnpqmcwz5kfmc))/mileg.aspx?page=home 2011 Senate Bill 59 December 13, 2012, to exempt concealed pistol license holders who have completed at least eight hours of additional training from the "gun free zone" limitations in the CPL law, which bans licensees from carrying in a certain areas (schools, day care facilities, sports stadiums or arenas, bars, bar/restaurants, places of worship, college dorms and classrooms, hospitals, casinos, large entertainment facilities and courts), except that a school or private building owner could still ban guns. Also, to eliminate county concealed weapon licensing boards, and transfer the responsibility for issuing concealed pistol license (CPL) licenses to county sheriff agencies, and change a number of other details of the CPL law. See also House Bill 5225, which streamlines pistol purchase procedures. Revise concealed pistol license procedures
terencerhyne December 18, 2012 at 06:36 PM
By taking my gun's away from me do you real think that will make me safe.They don't let just anyone have a gun you do have to go through a check to see if you can own one Regardless if its legal or not to own one a thief or a person with mental problems can and will get one.
Frustrated Old Man December 18, 2012 at 06:55 PM
Gabe, when was the last time you saw a licensed CPL holder mass murder children? Anyway, so what is your solution to the problem? I'm seriously interested, not trying to pick an argument here.
Steven Russell December 18, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Dean: I hope you are destroying them with a metal saw or plasma cutter. If you sell them or give them away they may end up hurting people instead of them locked up in your safe. I thank you for realizing guns are not right for you.
Just Sayin! December 18, 2012 at 07:20 PM
The problem is not a simple one.. there are several factors to concider..Im not a gun owner, nor do i believe i ever will be again in the future, but taking away the right to have a gun will do nothing! Period!.. I do have a question though, because Im not sure. When I was 20 I walked into a Dunhams and purchased a .22 rifle to join my buddies in small game hunting, if I recall, I simply saw the gun on the shelf, said I'll take that one and paid the man, and walked out with the gun, (if I recall) Is there any type of firearm today that you can walk into a sporting good store and 10 minutes later walk out , no questions asked???
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 18, 2012 at 07:37 PM
I totally agree with G-Money. You can make it harder for a person to buy a gun. But that will never change the fact that they were not his guns. And in many of these cases, it was not the shooters gun. They got it from another source. Sorry to SHOOT down your theory anti-gunners, but Facts are FACTS.
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 18, 2012 at 07:55 PM
Well said Joel... Make sure they take the stick that fell out of the tree in your back yard, Someone may try to use it as a weapon sometime in the future.
whatthefrack December 18, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 18, 2012 at 08:38 PM
HILLBILLY BRAVADO ??? If your gonna spew things like that from your loose lips... Maybe you might want to rethink that decision and keep them thar guns... Yankee.
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 18, 2012 at 08:56 PM
Although very sad stories, they don't compare to what has happened in CT. I'd attribute that to the "THUGS IN DA' HOOD, GANGSTA' MENTALLITY" That has overtaken this younger generation in this country. Gee, I wonder where they got that? If you want to correct this problem, it starts at home. Raise your kids to be HONEST, RESPECTFUL, people and we would not have so many problems. Just Sayin'.....
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 18, 2012 at 09:14 PM
Why? Do you think outlaws and criminals obey gun laws? You need to get the facts... and Get REAL.
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 18, 2012 at 09:17 PM
Alan December 18, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Yes, yes, yes. For three consecutive generations, we have given children & society generally increasing doses of violence, abuse and disrespect for anything except what individuals may want to do, the consequences be damned. And we have had three consecutive generations fed doses of decreasing ethics and a concept of personal responsibility and accountability. I often visit Switzerland, which with its unique military militia system has a citizenry that is armed to the teeth, but it has very little crime - especially violent crime. To paraphrase & adapt an earlier comment, it isn't either guns or people as individuals, "it's the culture, stupid!" - And we have evolved a culture that panders to the barbarians among us. I just don't know if it is possible to pull back from this abyss, but I doubt it.
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 18, 2012 at 09:23 PM
The fact about Switzerland is, they have the most LEGAL guns per capita, and the lowest crime rate. Hmmm, MORE LEGAL GUNS, LESS CRIME... IT'S TRUE, CHECK THE FACTS FOR YOURSELF.
Dean Massalsky December 18, 2012 at 10:35 PM
If anything, many if these responses speak to the overall iq level of a portion of gun owners. Perhaps Switzerland has a smaller proportion of stupid people who own firearms? I think Hillbilly Bravado is accurate. We are in Michigan, so Yankee is accurate as well. Again, if you re-read ( or have someone read it to you..slowly) the original post says nothing about taking guns, removing or changing the 2nd amendment, etc. Today, Dicks' Sporting Goods pulled weapons for sale, and Bushmaster is now up for sale.
Frustrated Old Man December 18, 2012 at 11:02 PM
Absolutely not! You have to fill out a Form 4473 (Firearms Transaction Record) Firearms Transaction Record http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_4473#eForm_4473
c-ya@theballgame December 19, 2012 at 01:07 AM
'Perhaps Switzerland has a smaller proportion of stupid people who own firearms'.....I'm still laughing.....as you nailed it.... I admire your ideals about giving up our guns, but I just can't see it happening. I wish it could be so.
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 19, 2012 at 01:14 AM
According to Dean, Y'all better "BEWARE OF HILLBILLY's".
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 19, 2012 at 01:58 AM
R. Gibson, Finally someone who thinks like me, and actually wants to find a solution, instead of running their mouth and pushing their agenda. R. Gibson I Applaud you... Keep fightin' the good fight. Bear
Dave (Bear) Huggins December 19, 2012 at 02:22 AM
Talk about classy, What are you doing to that poor dog???
terencerhyne December 19, 2012 at 02:39 AM
With all the anti gun's and pro gun's i have a problem with people arguring about this subject, instead of trying to find a answer they call each other names and with no real answers.How do we as adults show our children the right answer when we cannot even agree ourself.
Dean Massalsky December 19, 2012 at 03:37 AM
Just the stupid ones..
Dean Massalsky December 19, 2012 at 03:39 AM
When did RV's start coming with yards?
Dean Massalsky December 19, 2012 at 03:42 AM
Whatever for? Elaborate....Specific examples.


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