Hey Trenton! Would You Pay for Curbside Recycling?
Trenton officials tried implementing curbside recycling in 2004, but it failed miserably, according to City Administrator Jim Wagner.
Several Downriver communities offer recycling services from curbside pick up, either free or for a small fee, or free recycling drop off at a designated recycling center.
Trenton does not offer curbside recycling. Instead, residents can take recyclables to the Transfer Station at no cost.
Cities like Southgate and Woodhaven offer free curbside recycling. Riverview, much like Trenton, allows residents to drop off recyclables at a designated recycling center at no cost to the resident. Wyandotte offers curbside recycling through Waste Management for a fee of $7.55 per month.
Trenton officials attempted to implement curbside recycling in October 2004 for for a fee of $32.96 per year, but the required 300 residents needed to continue the service was not met and the service was discontinued in January 2005.
The program was offered to Trenton residents through a third party called Republic Services.
City Administrator Jim Wagner said the attempt failed miserably and no subsequent discussion has been made regarding curbside recycling in Trenton.
Some Trenton residents have voiced interest in curbside recycling on the Trenton Patch Facebook page. Four residents said they would be willing to sign a petition to get the service in Trenton -- if a petition existed.
Trenton resident Jen McConnell said she remembers when Trenton offered the service and would love to be able to use her old recycle bin for curbside service.
Wagner said the service would likely cost residents a reasonable fee if it were reinstated.
Trenton officials have not discussed curbside recycling. There are no plans of beginning the service.
Trenton Patch wants to know if curbside recycling would work in Trenton, if administrators were to give it another chance, and if residents would be willing to pay for the service.
Nate Stemen
5:24 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Why or why not?
Proud Trenton Resident
1:55 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Yes, Trenton should have weekly curbside pick up of recycling in addition to food and yard waste to reduce the garbage we send to the landfill. This might actually save the town money if they require people to recycle and cut garbage pickup to every other week like the program in Portland. The volume of waste going to the landfill is down 40% according to the Wall Street Journal "Portland Puts New Twist on Trash Pickup" June 27 article.
http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304458604577490532687633866.html?mg=reno64-wsj
Portland's new program may just work! Trenton could end up selling fertilizer to businesses, other towns, and at discounted rate to Trenton businesses and residents.
If this really takes off maybe this could help our fix our city's finances, improve our schools, and maybe even enable the city to invest in having all its own utilities like Wyandotte so it can be more independent of Detroit.
Please let me know what you think.
Terri Roberts
6:12 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Yes. I am doing it now anyways & would live one less trip to the dump.
Kathye Quirk
7:25 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Can I use the money that's being sunk into the ice rinks I don't use?
Rob Lindsay
2:34 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
That's your problem. We use the ice rinks several times a week and it keeps my kids busy and out of trouble.
Kathye Quirk
8:55 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
Then they need to figure out a way to make it profitable (as promised when they built it) or let private enterprise run it.
Jennifer Holt
7:26 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
No, I go now and recycle a ton, I don't think one bin would be enough, and I go for free. They also take almost everything, where curbside usually only accepts certain numbers and has to be cleaned a certain way and separated.
Sonya Smith
7:32 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
I would love to have the recycling service.
Jamie
7:35 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Does the city make any money for the items recycled at the dump?
sine-of-the-times
10:52 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
I almost have no garbage to put out on trash day and I am proud of that, but it is not always easy to take the big amount of recycle to the dump, and it piles up sometimes. Look at what Westland does...everyone gets a big trash can, you fill it up, and you get points to spend on stuff!
sine-of-the-times
10:56 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Plus...It is also our civic responsibility now to recycle. We cannot ignore the benefits to our future generations. I HATE seeing people setting out all their newspapers and cardboard, how lazy they are when they can take it just like we do to the dump...but they won't...rather, if we went curbside like Westland, the same effort it takes to put out the garbage could be put forth to wheel out both the recycles and the trash and the recycles actually get recycled! Make it easy for the people and they CAN do it!
Gloria
7:46 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
We should have been doing this for years. I still have my bin from my attempt years ago. The company involved rarely picked it up on time or at all even with phone calls from me. I think it should be part of the trash program and included without extra cost to citizens. Surely money can be made from this??? Had an opportunity to see the New Boston recycling plant in action. Go check it out. Pretty amazing. We are very behind the times and this is ONE way to change things.
karen hornbeck
7:47 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
practically every community has recycling of some kind, Trenton is behind the times on this, other cities didn't ask residents if they wanted to recycle, they made it mandatory!
Sharon
7:57 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Curbside recycling "failed miserably" because it wasn't required. I didn't even know about the program at the time, and only found out about it shortly before it was discontinued, otherwise I would have participated. Recycling is a habit, and much like the use of seat belts, a habit is easier to take up if it just becomes required.
Carrie A
8:01 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
We take our recycling to the transfer station. We recycle a TON and a weekly bin would not suffice. I'm still annoyed that the transfer station is now charging Trenton residents to use the pit or bring brush to the transfer station.
Judy Kane
8:01 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Yes, I am hauling to the dump once a week or so. For everything that goes to recycling, that's less junk piling up in landfills.
Nate Stemen
8:30 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
It sounds like there is a balanced number of people for and against the issue of curbside recycling with a fee. Let's keep the conversation going. Sometimes it's difficult for people to change their behavior after repeating the same act for many years. Do you think people would recycle even if it WAS free? -- NS
Sophie Radakovich
9:19 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Yes, yes, yes! It should be free if people recycle. BUT it should COST a resident if they Do NOT recycle. Trenton gets a paid by the amount we recycle. Residents should be required to recycle. It's the right thing to do, for all the reasons given above. Lots of people will only recycle if it affects their pocket book. We have been recycling for 40 years, and our children do as well. Let's make it easier for those who do the right thing. We all have a stake in this earth of ours. It's the only one we have. Haven't we spent the last 40 or so years trying to undo the damage done to our lakes by previous generations? It should be every one's responsibility to take of the earth for ourselves and future generations. Too many people don't think it is important, they think they don't have time or some other excuse. So let them pay if they don't recycle. Recycling should be a responsibility. What happens if you don't take responsibility for your actions? Well, you pay, of course!
Sophie Radakovich
9:26 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
oops! It''s our responsibility to take CARE of the earth. (forgot the word "care")
Kathye Quirk
8:55 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
I agree with Sophie!
Margaret
8:55 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
The only recyclables for our household are pop cans, milk jugs, and newspapers. Pop cans are recycled at a store to buy more pop, milk jugs are used in the garden or taken to my work where we have recycling bins, and newspapers are toys for our indoor pet bunny or used in the chimney starter.
If we went through more product (we're frugal and efficient), we would participate, but we have a system now that works for our household.
Sophie Radakovich
9:23 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Margaret, get a flyer from the recycling center. There are so many things that you can recycle that I think you may not be aware of.:)
Margaret
8:36 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Thank you, Sophie, I do have one.
I have trained our purchasing power to buy fresh from Trentwood with reusable bags or use connections I have with local farmers to trade weeding time for produce. We reuse cardboard boxes, etc, from our Sam's Club run for toys for the bunny.
Things like shampoo bottles and glass pickle jars I take to work since I'm on the Green Team for our recycling program and show by example how it works.
I do love the option to take my tree branches and other organic waste to the dump, but I doubt that would be included in the curb side option since there is already a call-to-pick-up for a cost.
michelle
9:48 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I didn't know anything about the old program. For $33/yr it would have been worth it to me. I would definitely recycle more. I take the papers to the bins at Hedke and return my returnable bottles and cans. I could obviously do more but do not because stuff would pile up before I found the time to get to the dump. If I could set it out weekly I would definitely participate!
sine-of-the-times
10:13 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Margaret and anyone else considering recycling...you have no idea the extent to which you can recycle...while I cannot find a link for you, I do have a printed copy of these things...put MORE in your bin! cardboard, paper bags, junk mail, any kind of paper- envelopes, brochures, magazines, etc, cans, plastics #1-7!!!, any paperboard (not wax coated), newspaper, kithcen cookware-metal pots pans tins utensils, plastic bags from stores, plastic bags that have recycle numbers on them, phone books...GO FOR IT
Margaret
8:39 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Thank you, but I am aware.
My work even recycles styrofoam, the most difficult. I'm on the team to work out a more efficient and cleaner way to reduce our usage and reuse cups. We have about 20 paper shredder bins per floor where personal papers and mail dropoff is encouraged.
I'm not saying I don't recycle, I'm saying I take it to work, so I have no need for curbside.
TJ
11:00 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I am happy with the current free system. I use it a lot. I build up a large amount and then take it over.
Lana
3:45 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I would love curbside! For people that work until 5 or 6pm its very hard to utilize the dump and take your items there! I would hope more people would recycle if they had a bin and it was picked up from their house!
Shanna Jones
5:42 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I would use this service and have hoped the city would get it back. My family and I recycle all the time. My husband and I both work so it is a huge hassle to drop off our recyclables to the dump each week. And if we can't make it a week - the recyclables sit in my garage until we can. I would prefer the ease of mind that comes with knowing they are scheduled to be picked up each week with the trash.
Melissa
12:33 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Love to see a recycle pick-up. Very convenient. Don't make it mandatory. People still like to go to the dump.
sickofexcuses
1:58 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
if we recycled curbside our large busy family would be able to start recycling. i just dont have the time to make a trip to the recycling place. i also know that it would cost the city lessto pay for it themselves bc we would have a ton less trash. its sad that the largest families, w the most recyclable trash, cant afford to pay to do it. i say yes for free recycling nd yes to taking the cost from OTHER recreational facilities in the city.
David Leone
8:33 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
I think brining back curbside recycling would be great at an appropriate fee. The key to the program's previous failure and future success (if brought back) is educating the general public. When the cost and benefits are presented in a concise, logical way, I'm sure most people would be supportive. Since the city has gotten a new recycling company and they increased the kinds of stuff that are acceptable as recyclable, my regular trash (that goes to the land fill) has been reduced to about 1/3 of its former volume. If the city implemented the same program as that in Portland, Oregon, it would be even less. I don't think it should be mandatory, but if you choose not to recycle, you should pay a premium to dispose of your garbage. If you choose not to recycle curbside, but instead want to haul it to the transfer station yourself, then you should be able to get a "credit" that would differ the cost of the premium you pay by not participating in the curbside recycling. When you go to the transfer station, they request your ID (this is how the city can keep track of your "credit".) At the end of the year, you would get a refund check with an amount reflective of the number of times you recycle, with a not to exceed amount of course. Wouldn't want people to "game" the system. People like convenience, so I think most people would opt for curbside (use large conatiners similar to the current containers and not the small orange bins like the past).
Sophie Radakovich
10:13 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
We need our recreational facilities. I do want to say that I live near Lions park and the baseball teams that use the park leave big messes behind. The garbage cans are right there and bottles and papers from snacks are everywhere. Parents and children who use the parks should be more responsible. It costs money to pick up the trash, and it is an eyesore until its picked up.. By the way the parks and ice rink and Westfield Com. Center would be great places to set up recycling bins for paper, plastic etc, A good teaching tool! And a good way to get people thinking about recycling. Communities that have publilc recycling available are always seen as being good places to live and work.On the cutting edge, so to speak. It would be good publicity for our community. People want to live where they know other people take pride in their community.
sine-of-the-times
10:34 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Funny you mention that Sophie...I was just at 2 ball fields tonight...the garbage cans were FULL of plastic and if I had the "gumption I would have emptied it all to be recycled, it embarrasses me to see all those bottles laying there...why don't people take home the empties just like they bring them I don't understand!!! We must do better to train ourselves not to be so disposable...I also picked up left bottles laying in the field and took a few home.
Carrie A
8:42 am on Monday, July 16, 2012
Great idea - I wonder if there is any grant $$ around for recycling containers at baseball/soccer fields... Or get local businesses to sponsor them. Anybody need an Eagle Scout project??
michelle
10:31 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Great ideas Sophie and others! Maybe with a few more recycling bins around the city more people would take advantage of them. The parks could have a plastics bin with the garbage bins and some of the community centers could have localized bins for more varieties for those who just can't get to the dump in the hours its open. :-)
Lynn
11:38 am on Friday, July 13, 2012
It failed because it was optional...I use the current free system although it is extremely inconvenient and I do not like going to the dump/waste-water treatment! It stinks, I have to wait in a line and it is confusing if it is your first time. (Wyandotte's is so much nicer and convenient!)
The environment is important to me and I will continue to recycle BUT we have to make it easier and more convenient so more people participate.
I cannot believe all the plastic bottles found in the park after ball games. Why can't the teams designate weekly recyclers for these events...put all the plastic bottles in a plastic bag instead of trash.
Sophie Radakovich
12:23 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012
Carrie, What a good thought! I love the idea of an Eagle Scout project. Putting recycle bins in the parks is a totally wonderful idea and hopefully one that some boys looking for a project would embrace. That would include fund raising, getting the containers and knowing what can be recycled. But once in place the recycled plastic needs to be picked up on a regular basis and that is where the city comes in or a private recycling co. A lot of logistics for an eagle scout to figure out! And a great help to the community.
Sophie Radakovich
4:33 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Wow! so many good ideas for getting recycling going again in our fair city of Trenton. Kyle Stack and City Council, are you following these comments? Come on let's get something started here in Trenton! Oh, the recycling bins at the street fair were awesome. Makes me proud to say I'm from Trenton cuz Trenton cares!
P.s. are those bins city property or loaned from a business?
S.Woody
5:00 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
i would do a lot more recycling if it was curbside. but on the bigger things i still would go to the dump and drop it off myself.
Judy Kane
8:48 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
Hopefully the mayor and council will consider curbside recycling. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks! There are many seniors who would recycle if it was more convenient.
Web Spin
12:37 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Unprofitably reflects inefficiency. If recycling was not a waste, it would be profitable for a business to buy recyclables, and we would be in fact compensated for the recyclables we have. Instead the government can barely keep it afloat wasting our tax dollars.
Just say no to nanny state ideas.
sine-of-the-times
1:03 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
We recycle because it is what's right, not because it's profitable; profits are not what I think of first. It takes time for ideas to take hold and for companies to be forced to use recyclables and other biodegrade-able packaging. What I think of is that we need to encourage people and companies to be friends to the environment and not be a wasteful society, because our kids will be left to clean up that mess, too. Once we change our habits, the profits will come. Other cities are not having issues with this. Let's educate and get Trenton residents on board, that's what the companies are waiting for.
Web Spin
2:49 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
What you call profits, I call proof of concept. In a normal healthy economy, ideas that are inefficient and produce negative wealth are eliminated or never funded to start with. In the economy of government mandate, bad concepts live on forever. Ideas like the Pontiac Silverdome, that would save Pontiac. 30 years latter and 500 million dollars lost (2012 dollars) a complete wright-off and Pontiac worse than when the geniuses started to 'fix-it". The People Mover, with 5% of the traffic "expert government" claimed it would. It costs us taxpayers $10 in subsidies for every rider that uses it, and that's completely discounting the 350 million in taxes that built it. The Reminiscence Center lost more than 100% of it's government subsidized construction cost in the first 15 years. The Detroit Zoo? $14 for an Adult ticket plus 38 dollars in tax subsidies for that entrant. Now we've added the DIA to the insanity. Last year just 400,000 people used the DIA, many of them kids bused in and forced to "take-in the culture". Now we just passed a new property tax of 23 million annually to fund the place. That equates to us paying a $57 ticket for each user. That's nuts and even you must realize that. Would you take a family of four to the DIA for $228 ($57 x 4)??? Most would answer no yet through the majic of taxation, that's exactly what we are doing. Let's stop wasting resources on 500 million dollar Ford fields, 500 million dollar Comerica Parks, 310 million dollar Zilwaukee Bridge's.
sine-of-the-times
7:58 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Whoa, WebSpin, you must enjoy being enslaved by the Koch brothers' and corporations like them. I recall that the Koch brothers cheap plastic products replaced recyclable products in the Washington Capitol building's cafeteria...yes, this was the FIRST item of business for Republicans when they took over control. They keep feeding us this cheap product that will grow into landfills, and make lots more $$ for Waste Management, I bet. Can you not imagine a world that tries to make progress. If recycling is made easier and cheaper and is mandated, people will do it, and businesses will find a way to compete and make profits from it. The problem is that they/we don't have to, so it's easier to choose to be a wasteful society. The mind is a terrible thing to waste. Maybe Walmart can have an art gallery someday, too.
Web Spin
9:17 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
You must be writing about this; "...Dan Lungren, chair of the house administration committee, said the $475,000 per year program was too expensive and not even green. "After a thorough review of the house's composting operations, I have concluded that it is neither cost effective nor energy efficient to continue the program," he said in a statement on his website...."
Thank god (small g) that Democrats expensive society hasn't been able to completely halt progress. If they had I wouldn't have my iPhone that stores as much as 7 million type written pages or 10,s of thousands of gallons of wasted gasoline and countless hours chasing down all the information that is at my fingertips. Think of the thousands of vinyl records times the 100's of millions of phones and that's over a trillion pounds of plastic material that would have been generated. To this you'll reply "the government invented the internet" but that's such an exaggeration it's a lie. World wide networking of personal home computers started with AOL, Prodigy, BBS's and CompuServe. Without private greedy corporations the internet would still just be a file transfer medium a small number of government agencies use.
sine-of-the-times
10:18 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Aha! Lungren is a REPUBLICAN!
Go ahead and vote for "re-gress"...look what was next folks! I think I'll vote for progress.
"Next on the Republican agenda of environmental retro moves? Lightbulbs. House Republicans introduced a bill last week to repeal the government's decision to phase out the old energy-inefficient bulbs, which was due to start in 2012.
Environmental organisations condemned the return to plastic. "They are willing to undo progress when they should be looking at getting their own house in order. " said Tony Iallonardo of the National Wildlife Federation."
Web Spin
10:49 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Wendy, do you practice what you preach? Does you're car get better than 35 MPG and do you drive far fewer miles than the average "wasteful America"? Do you have a nice energy efficient house like the average Japanese of only 1000 sq, feet or less? Do you refuse to waste energy and pollute the air by only vacationing close to home? How many trips to the store do you make on foot per week? Do you refuse to use air conditioning in both your home and your car? Refuse to put fertilizer and herbicides on your lawn? Do you dry your clothes on a clothes line?
sine-of-the-times
11:15 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I make the best decisions I can, I drive my family nuts, but we are better off, and I educate them so that they try harder to live a better life-style. I went to the council meeting and requested that pesticides not be used at the Riverside property. I don't buy things that are over-packaged for convenience. I re-use, re-gift, re-sell, donate. I get 28mpg and I drive on a plan so as not to waste gas. I hate air-conditioning, and I have a programmable thermostat, with several zone valves so if I am not in that area, I don't need to use the heat. If it wasn't for spiders I'd hang my clothes outside, so instead they hang inside. I could fill my trash can once a month and it still wouldn't be full...I could go on...and I look for all the help I can get, which is WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR RECYCLING help!
michelle
12:14 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Hey all! Sorry for getting my feathers ruffled. I just can't stand when people try to be constructive and share ideas and then someone comes and trashes them and insults people for caring about the planet we live on. I fell into that person's trap too. I'm going to delete my comments because they are not constructive to the topic on hand (recycling).
sine-of-the-times
3:48 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
:) feeling the love Michelle!
Web Spin
12:17 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Are you for real or are you just out trolling. "Luckly I saved your words I now see you deleted" Just in case your legit, have a look AGAIN at your own words and see if you can't spot the negative and destructive attitude;
"You must be a very miserable and unhappy person in life"
"I have not seen one positive comment from you anywhere".
"I'm just tired of people whining"
"you come barging in with trying to tear her (and everyone else in here down)"
"I'm sorry you are so miserable and jaded in life"
"You don't need to drag everyone down with you"
"you seem a very sad unhappy person"
Do you get it?
as for your comment " If we want to recycle, if we want to pay for it...that is our prerogative". Ah, but you demand I help finance the folly of what I now know is a net negative for the environment and society. Society needs a few more wet blankets. I wish we had a few more in each of the following;
The Nazi party.
The Imperialist Japanese.
Congress, pre Iraqi invasion
al qaeda 2 hours before 9/11
the U.A.W. before completly wiping out GM and Chrysler (and yes, those companies don't exist anymore, a difficult concept to comprehend for some unworldly to the ideas of a liquidation bankruptcy)
The secessionist south.
michelle
12:36 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
I do not feel that politics really belongs on this topic. Nor does anything about you personally (why I deleted my comments about you being miserable and jaded). I wasn't trying to hide them from anyone, just thought they were not constructive to the topic of recycling. I will send you a personal note if you wish to continue the converation. This page should be saved for the topic on hand.
Dusty One
2:40 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Gotta agree with Michelle on this one. What did the post above hers have to do with the topic on hand here? And "REALLY"?, Web Spin..... what the heck is the end of your post supposed to be about????? Never mind... I don't think any of us care to know.... and again, it would totally be off topic. Please do me a favor and DON'T respond, unless it has anything to do about Trenton recycling, that is.
sine-of-the-times
3:47 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
I wonder if this is what we get from Trenton Patch opening up to Grosse Ile??...haven't seen Webspin on here before as a "poster"
michelle
4:52 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Eh, I wouldn't say it is because of adding GI. They are cool peeps. Where else can you find an island with a winery and alpaca farm? LOL